Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He can be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org.
FP: Dave Gaubatz,welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Although you have only been on the road a few days during your Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT), do you have any interesting intelligence to report?
Gaubatz: Thank you Jamie. It has been a fast paced few days, but I will focus this interview on North Carolina. Most readers know Senator Larry Shaw (D/NC) has assumed the role as the ‘Chairman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ (CAIR). On 15 April 2009, Senator Shaw contacted me and advised he was aware of my 50 State CTRT. He advised he would keep me in his “prayers and would have his staff follow my research.”
Senator Shaw had written the following to me, “Under no circumstances should innocent children be abused, assaulted, neglected or mistreated; that was one of the major driving forces for my introduction of a bill in the North Carolina General Assembly in 2007 that would require the state of North Carolina to divest from companies operating in Sudan, Darfur.”
I have not released to anyone my schedule of the states/Islamic Centers I would visit as part of my research, and on 17 April 2009, I drove to Raleigh, NC. I visited the Islamic Center of Raleigh, next door to UN State University, and only a few blocks from Senator Shaw’s Legislative office. Readers can view some photographs of my visit at www.daveg.us./
FP: What were the results?
Gaubatz: This Islamic Center is predominately Sunni and considers itself “Pure Muslim.” Essentially they follow no Islamic school of thought, and follow Islam as it was practiced 1400 years under Prophet Mohammed. The leadership of the Islamic Center of Raleigh advocates an Islamic Ummah (Nation) worldwide, and under Sharia law. Violence against innocent men, women, and children to achieve these goals is strongly advocated in Sudan, and also at the Islamic Center of Raleigh. Materials published in Saudi Arabia and Sudan is used by the Center’s leadership to educate the worshippers.
Based on my U.S. government training, travels throughout the Middle East, years of self study of Islam/Sharia law, and professional CT training by people associated with Islamic terrorist groups, I believe before Senator Shaw begins focusing on Sudan, he should first “clean” his own house in Raleigh, NC. Shaw informed me he had introduced a NC bill as stated above to “divest from companies operating in Sudan,” yet he allows violent Islamic material from Sudan to be taught to the children in Raleigh, NC.
FP: Can you be more specific as to what is taught at the Islamic Center of Raleigh?
Gaubatz: It is important for not only Raleigh citizens to be concerned, but all citizens throughout America that the leadership of this Islamic Center follows the teachings of Atlanta’s cop killer, “Imam, Jamil Al-Amin, convicted terrorist supporter Ali Al Timimi, Sheikh Ghassan Al-Barqawee, Dr. Bilal Phillips (who has tried to justify in prior lectures why marrying six year old children as the Prophet Mohammed did 1400 years ago is still a noble trait for Muslim men), and by the founder of the terrorist group Jamaat-e-Islami (Abul Maududi).
During my visit at the Islamic Center of Raleigh, I obtained several hours of Jihadist lectures by Jamil Amin and others calling for Muslims worldwide to unite and use physical Jihad to implement Sharia law not only in Sudan, Somali, Pakistan, or Afghanistan, but in America as well.
FP: Have you informed Senator Shaw of your findings?
Gaubatz: I have no doubts Senator Larry Shaw already knows the results of my research. He had informed me he would have his staff monitor my research. He wasn’t clear if he meant his CAIR staff or his elected office staff in NC. I have little doubt he is being true to his word and is monitoring my research. He and other Islamic leaders have always hidden behind “religious walls,” use the First Amendment (Free Speech) to our Constitution, and now the leadership of President Barack Obama to justify the violence being advocated in Raleigh, and/or he will use the same reasoning Obama used when confronted by the radical/anti-American views of Reverend Jeremiah Wright and terrorist Bill Ayers. They will ‘play ignorant’ and hope it will all go away.
What is most frightening is that Senator Larry Shaw and many Islamic organizations/scholars have used the above for so many years in America and it has and does work. They have terrorized our law enforcement and innocent Americans from being fearful of lawsuits and potential violence against themselves that their activities will continue to be allowed. How many Raleigh law enforcement officers attend this Islamic Center and keep the leaders “aware” of potential investigations?
What Senator Shaw is concerned about is whether I allow the issue to drop. Will I continue researching the activities within Raleigh? Do I already have more evidence than I am revealing in this interview?
FP: What do you suggest concerned citizens do?
Gaubatz: Always stay one step above Islamic leaders who advocate violence against innocent men, women, and children. Stay within legal boundaries but do not be afraid of lawsuits or threats from Islamic organizations and/or politicians who support an Islamic Ummah in America under Sharia law. Do not be intimidated by name calling such as Islamophobe, racist, or ‘right wing extremist’. When you have the truth on your side it is very, very difficult for supporters of Islamic terrorists to do anything aside from the above.
Call Senator Shaw’s office and give him the benefit of the doubt to answer the above. Let’s assume he is “ignorant” as President Obama claimed to be pertaining to Reverend Wright. Put Senator Shaw on the spot. Ask him if he would provide a sworn statement under oath denying any of the evidence I mentioned above is being advocated just a few blocks from his Raleigh office. Demand from politicians and authorities at the local, state, and federal level to investigate. Demand law enforcement investigates the Islamic Center of Raleigh. Or simply sit back as many Americans currently do and allow Sharia law to continue “creeping into our society.” Our children will live with it. There are in reality only a few choices.
FP: Which state will you conduct research in next?
Gaubatz: After NC, I again conducted more research in TN. Per the words of some Al Farooq (Somali worshippers) on 18 Apr 2009, the city is referred by them as “SOMALILAND”. Although now living in Nashville, they have not left behind the ideology of Sharia law. The next state to be researched is only known to me.
FP: Keep up the good work sir.
Gaubatz: Thank you Jamie.