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Hijacking the Civil Rights Movement By: Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dr. Melvin L. Johnson, the pastor of the Heart of Christ Community Church of Brazoria, Texas. He serves on the executive board of the Houston Area Pastor Council which represents the input, participation and fellowship of over 100 pastors and churches in the Greater Houston area. He has a Doctor of Ministry in Theology from Covington Theological Seminary of Rossville, GA. His recently-released book is Overcoming Racism Through the Gospel.

FP: Dr. Melvin Johnson, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Johnson: Thank you for having me.

FP: What inspired you to write this book?

Johnson: My inspiration first comes from a deep and solemn appreciation for this country and the God who empowered our Founding Fathers to risk life and property to establish it.

From my youth, I have always believed that all men were created equal and have continually challenged any ideology that contradicted that belief. I’m inspired by those who did struggle through slavery, Jim crow and second-class citizenship to get us all to this point. It’s now our generation’s duty to move forward instead of fighting to keep the nation embroiled in racial turmoil, and the church of today has all of the resources to practically eliminate it.

With my talent to write and love for bringing reason to the unreasonable acceptance of racial hatred, for this I am compelled and inwardly-driven. With the information I have and the way it is presented, my book has the potential of causing a paradigm shift in not just within the African American community, but also within many parts of America as a whole.

FP: What is the book about, what is its main argument and how is it original?

Johnson: The first word of the book is Overcoming. This word is a statement of achieving success over an enormous obstacle. It is about presenting for scrutiny many of the elements that comprise this very complicated issue, and then suggesting better, more effective solutions as opposed to making futile attempts that are designed to merely treat the symptom instead of curing the illness.

Most of the solutions are Biblically-based. I believe that the Christian community- the body of Christ has the duty and ability to meet this challenge, and then present a model for the rest of the world. I base this upon Jesus’ prayer in John 17: 20-21:

"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me (NIV).

Conciliation starts with us and if no others are willing to do it, we still have the mandate to do so.

Just as important, I consistently present the argument that there are beneficiaries of racial hatred and separation who can hold power and wealth only if we as Americans are divided. In this case, race is the most natural tool to force wedges and divisions. Additionally, for any culture to fall for and live down to such lower expectations will find itself slowly dying in the cesspool of its own poisons.

FP: Can you talk a little bit about your own spiritual and intellectual journey. You are also faced racism in your life obviously. How is it that you arrived at your disposition rather than, let’s say, a disposition of anger, anti-white animosity, Black Panther-type ideology, etc.

Johnson: Please don’t misunderstand. Like most young African American kids living in the South, I grew up through my teenage years just as angry as any other person who felt that they were penalized simply because of their skin color. My first four years of segregated public school began in 1963 at Henry O. Tanner in Brazoria, Texas, desegregation came four years later. There were still places that we as blacks understood not to go. However, our educational structure at the black school had been good, and when we desegregated in 1967, I don’t believe any of us actually felt that we were either intellectually or genetically inferior to the white kids. However, we did begin to notice that the culture and system was continually attempting to prove different.

Our frustration was not in what we knew about our equality as being the truth, it was the power and influence the white kids held -- though they believed in the lie about our inferiority. My first encounter with the racial barrier was at the age of ten as several of us went seeking to play organized baseball in the town’s all-white little league association. During that time, there were Hispanics already playing because they were considered to be white. Knowing where the teams practiced, we got on our bikes with our baseball gloves and rode up to the field and sat and watched the white kids practice, somehow believing that someone would ask, “Do you want to play?” They simply ignored us and we left as their practice session ended.

I got the nerves a few days later to call one of the adult leaders I thought would make it possible for us to play that year. He told me about the little league rules and we would have to get applications and register the next season. In 1967 we desegregated and made friends with many of our white classmates. They wanted us to play baseball the upcoming season. Several of us went on that day of registration, but were told that we had come too late, and it was over. So we didn’t get to play that year either, and our white friends were just as upset, and community uproar apparently had been initiated. The following season, we were able to register and four of us played, and the rest is history.

In 2004, we were honored by the Brazoria Little League Association as being the first African Americans to play. By mid-teenage years, I found it very easy to look at even my white classmates with suspicion and distrust, believing that they would some day use race as the ultimate insult. I became just as bitter in some cases as anyone else.

That was the seventies -- the period of black pride, black awareness, black power and black anger. There was an emergence of black America as a self-determining class of humanity. Our cultural heroes during the seventies actually included the Black Panthers and Angela Davis because of their positions against what we believed was white oppression.

I am convinced that the thing that prevented me from really going in that direction was my Christian upbringing, and as I matured, I began to see that most of the militant heroes were more interested in the leftist ideology at the expense of the nation. They were not really interested in achieving the American dream.

Today, we must face the fact that many who even serve in -- and are elected -- to positions of power in our government actually despise our current system, and are working to change it. I, like many others, had to make a responsible transition. Overall, my ministerial calling is strengthened by the joy of using my talent to provide life-enhancing information to all who inquire.

As a pastor, my duty is to care for the souls of others. That is the greater purpose -- to walk faithfully and share the good news to the racist as well as to his victim. It is the same faith in God that inspired our Founding Fathers to author the Declaration of Independence, start this nation, write a Constitution that cannot be matched by any other nation and then set it sail on the ocean of time with those precious documents as the tools for navigation. If they can do that, then my book can simply make the journey more pleasurable.

FP: Tell us a bit about the legacy of socialism that started with the NAACP’s charter membership -- and its influences even today.

Johnson: Not many people know that the NAACP was actually started by white socialists who invited blacks into the organization. The first president was white elitist Moorefield Storey. The charter membership included its founder Mary W. Ovington, a white elitist. Two other white members, Jane Adams and the father of progressive education, John Dewey, were also instrumental in organizing the ACLU.

W.E.B. Dubois himself believed in the communist ideology and often raved about the success of Stalin and Mao Zedong. He eventually joined the Communist Party, USA in 1961. In 1963, at the age of 93 he left America to become a citizen of Ghana where he eventually died.

Although one of their concerns was to help blacks fight and bring an end to lynchings and discrimination, I suspect that there were even deeper motives, though commendable in the fight against the onslaught. I believe that this is the way the black community was manipulated into the influences of socialistic ideology, which is very strong today. It is an experiment in socialism -- government dependency for many basic needs. I am convinced that many of our black communities have become the liberals’ Petrie dish for social experimentation.

Simply put, the NAACP of today serves as the clearinghouse for the modern socialist movement. On the national front, this specifically applies to the Congressional Black Caucus. No black person who does not follow the NAACP’s leftist philosophy will get support from the organization, especially when it comes to freeing struggling inner-city black and Hispanic kids from the clutches of the failing public schools. It is the legacy of socialism I believe that they are loyal to. To many blacks, its evils are not realized, and are seen as a virtue.

Today’s black liberals hide behind the new term “Progressive,” but that ideology is no different from that of socialists Daniel Ortega and Hugo Chavez. If you would simply look at the present-day national leadership of the NAACP and other black leftist groups, they are positioned by the white liberals as the vanguard of black America.

FP: How many of African-American churches have been led to practice a form of Marxism? How does this ideology supplant the true Christian benevolence and world view?

Johnson: This has been the greatest sleight-of-hand I have ever seen. In the Bible, specifically the 4th Chapter of Acts, verses 32-35, we see the coming together of the 1st church in terms of material wealth and daily provisions for its congregation members.

Being of one mind, they sold their possessions and gave the proceeds to the church. The key part of verse 35 says, “and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.” The Christians of that day began to reach into their own pockets, pool their resources and created a system for providing for their own.

It was voluntary benevolence at its finest. Centuries later, Karl Marx, in his philosophy that was to create a perfect society under communism often used the phrase “from each according to his ability to each according to his need.” Compare the two phrases. Can you see how similar these two principles are? However, one is inspired by God, the other is mandated by government. I submit to you that for the past 70 or so years, many of the African American churches have been led over to the Marxist version of benevolence, and away from the Christian practice.

Again, the NAACP’s influences contributed, along with the apathy of many of the white churches, especially during the height of the civil rights movement. This is why politicians, especially Democrats, are so comfortable with coming to black churches during worship services and preach on the virtues of what they could get from the government for them.

Many people of all races today seek to exercise their version of Christian benevolence by using the power of government to redistribute wealth. This is why I believe that Fidel Castro is such a folk hero to many of them. In their eyes, he has perfected a national system of benevolent giving to all of its citizenry. Though for decades he has been a murderous atheist, he still can come to Harlem, enter a major church and speak from the pulpit like an apostle sent from heaven.

FP: What are some of the detrimental effects of the race industry and its leadership?

Johnson: Several chapters address different aspects of the detrimental effects of the race industry’s influences. I call it an industry because it has raw material (people) and produces a product (wealth, position, power, etc.) for a small group. This group must have a people who must believe in absolutely everything the leadership tells them. One chapter is called “Physiological Effects Through Self Affliction.” Here, I point out that many blacks have been convinced that existing in America itself is actually struggling to survive in a totally hostile environment -- a system designed by white racists to keep blacks oppressed.

Unfortunately, this belief brings on certain stress factors upon one’s physical body and mental well-being. In this case I use statistical evidence to show black America that it is possible that hypertension, for example, can be a result in one living under the perpetual belief that their entire environment is racist and hostile.

Hypertension is closely linked to two other killers: heart disease and kidney failure --high frequency events in the African American community. But again, the race industry has no other message than one of perpetual negativity.

Another chapter – “The Culture of Faithless Faith” -- centers on the negative images the race industry actually paints for minority kids, especially the African Americans. The greatest benefit for the race industry is the continued production of an uneducated, poor, angry but dependent population spread over generations.

FP: How does Darwin’s theory of evolution serve as the foundation for modern racism?

FP: Darwinists often pride themselves on logic and reasoning. However, if you take evolution to its foremost conclusion, there will be a single race of humanity that is the most advanced -- even over other races. His book, Origin of Species, has a longer title that is seldom spoken of. It actually says, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection: or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life. I’m pretty sure that any astute person of color particularly would begin to question the matter of preserving favored races.

However, much of the modern racist views stem from Darwin’s theory of evolution. Humanity’s greatest monsters like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and others were believers in evolution. We have thoroughly refuted the Biblical myths justifying racism, now I am challenging the faith in evolution with sound reason and logic. Blacks and other people of color should realize that the same system that has sought to deny the existence of God is the same system that has denied their full humanity.

FP: Just a second, even the Pope has admitted that Creation involved elements of evolution. As believers in God, we can still accept that the Adam and Eve story is a metaphor. There was surely some kind of evolution in terms of how humans evolved, correct?

Johnson: Your question is very presumptive, but I’ve read about Pope Benedict’s belief in evolution and predecessor Pope John Paul’s belief in it as well. I attribute their beliefs possibly stemming from the systems they were educated in as children: Nazi Germany and Poland. However, my position is one that is different. Both the Judeo-Christian view of creation and the evolutionist view are actually faith-based because none of us were there.

Our Biblical definition of faith is the substance of things hoped for -- the evidence of things not seen. If I can see it, then I don’t need faith to believe it. There are many believers who interweave evolution into the Biblical account, it’s not necessary for me to do that. Evolution is the engine that powered most hideous minds in human history, including Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler. I have two chapters in my book addressing this belief system because evolution is the foundation for modern racism -- it came into popularity when false Biblical teachings began to become exposed as such. The history of race and culture in America is built upon it.

As a black man, I have lived and experienced the subliminal dogma of evolutionist ideology. History tells us that sixteenth century Catholicism legalized the African slave trade industry throughout the known world by concluding that blacks were soulless, subhuman forms of being. By the end of the nineteenth century, evolutionist ideology bolstered this belief through Darwin’s writings.

Concerning Adam and Eve, I contend that they were the first humans from the very beginning. If they were simply metaphors, then Jesus would have to be a metaphor, for the record of his ancestry traces all of the way back to the creation account.

Even if I believed the Biblical account of creation as a Christian and rejected evolution, what have I truly lost? On the other hand, if one would believe solely in evolution, but rejected God, what has he truly gained? Concerning the evolutionist philosophy, I propose that we agree to disagree.

FP: So what is the Race-Cult factor?

Johnson: The Race-Cult factor is a chapter that identifies the traits and character of a cult system and identifies these factors in the African American population. It is the only racial group that responds politically with a single-mindedness of 90+ percent polarization towards one party. I believe that there are elements operating within the black community which makes it detrimentally cohesive, subject to manipulation and abuse. Using the model of Dr. Milton Rokeach, author of The Opened and Closed Mind, I examine the three regions of thought that could affect the way many African Americans may be influenced to perceive certain elements. Then we examine four characteristics of cult life, which are closed-mindedness, antagonism, institutional dogmatism and finally isolationism. I present this along with a solution to overcome it.

FP: You mention the law of reciprocity: why hatred for a person causes the one hating to become the person they hate. Can you explain?

Johnson: Here’s an example. Two people who we can say are on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to race matters are Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. To be on the far left and the far right suggests that there is a linear distance between the two as far as in measuring how different they are from each other.

However, upon examination, we find that these two personalities are deeply-rooted in the same beliefs: hatred for the other race; superiority of their own; closed-mindedness; off-shoot of a primary religious system; hatred for Jews; and seeking a pure-race society comprised of their own. Both are intelligent men but would probably never get together. So they are actually not at opposite ends - they are the same.

This explains how peace marchers can justify rioting and destroying property. Liberals who are supposed to be the "open-minded" people are striving viciously to shut out speech they do not like and call those they oppose Nazis and hateful. Even the NAACP can act out of prejudice and racism from within itself, and their version of affirmative action often utilizes racial discrimination. It is easy to become the one who offends us. That is what I call reciprocity. That is one of the reasons Jesus tells us to love our enemies. That in the principle which breaks the cycle.

FP: I would like to get your thoughts on the Katrina crisis. The media and many black and liberal politicians at that time indulged in some curious rhetoric about Katrina, portraying it as some kind of moral lesson about white racism. What was your take?

Johnson: The Katrina crisis was the result of a category five hurricane overwhelming the geographical region, the people and the relief agencies that were supposed to help during the aftermath.

Unfortunately, the failure of the levee system and the paralysis of the entire support system became too much of an opportunity for the politicians, the media and the anti-Bush conglomerate to let pass. Black leaders began circulating reports that scuba divers had been seen planting explosives at the base of the levee just before it collapsed.

Accusations of racism began to fly, and the entire blame was laid at the feet of the president, while the problem was just as much of the breakdown of local and state authorities as it was federal.

My take was that the racism did not start during or after hurricane Katrina, what unfortunately occurred was the result of a form of systematic racism that had been practiced in Louisiana’s one-party power structure for generations. This white racism could not exist without the silence of black consent.

FP: What are your thoughts on Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?

Johnson: I probably would not have much more to say about these two individuals than anyone else. Both are recognized as preachers of the gospel within the Christian faith, but the only reference to Jesus I have ever heard either of them use was in the context that He was homeless or that He was an at-risk child. Both cases were based upon perverted forms of Marxism, and the purpose was to promote causes they apparently felt were more important than the gospel.

One of the most important elements of this position is bringing forth the truth. I see not much evidence in either case at this time. Their real power comes from the news media itself, including conservatives. Quite often, you will see Sharpton in a televised debate with a conservative talk show host, plus the air time he gets with his liberal media friends. In the meantime, intelligent and persuasive black conservatives are ignored because the white conservatives would rather spar with the black liberal like Sharpton and the white liberal is terrified of the black conservative.

Thus, the Jacksons and Sharptons are viewed in the community as the champions. What is needed is increased exposure of the black conserviative view because it resonates soundly within the community when its exposed enough.

Like others within the African American community, Jackson and Sharpton feed off of the misery and troubles of the people. Both are intelligent men, of which causes me to believe that they actually know what it would take to lift troubled African Americans up above many of those circumstances. However, there is the temptation for wealth, power and exposure presented to them by the liberal media - enough power to use the entire African American community against a billion-dollar corporation to extort for oneself and his minions great wealth and personal benefit. They are of the race profiteering industry.

FP: Dr. Melvin L. Johnson, thank you for joining us today.

Johnson: Thank you, it has certainly been a pleasure.

Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of Canadian Policy Toward Khrushchev’s Soviet Union and is the co-editor (with David Horowitz) of The Hate America Left. He edited and wrote the introduction to David Horowitz’s Left Illusions. His new book is United in Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror. To see his previous symposiums, interviews and articles Click Here. Email him at jglazov@rogers.com.

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